N.T. Wright Explains Ephesians: The Church, Christian Nationalism, and the Armor of God
Tom (NT) Wright
50.28
4 December 2025
6 December 2025
Christianity Isn’t a Nation and The Church Isn’t a National Movement
Host Curtis Chang sits down with N.T. Wright to explore the explosive themes of Ephesians, including what the Bible really says about the mission of the church—not as a lifeboat escaping to heaven, but a “small working model of new creation”—a multiethnic, multicultural community that stands against the powers and principalities of our age through truth, unity, and love. Wright discusses the church’s mission in a divided world, and the rise of Christian nationalism. They address modern challenges such as misunderstandings of spiritual warfare, the communal nature of the armor of God, why the “belt of truth” matters today, and how Ephesians calls the church to resist counterfeit visions of power.
(06:12) - Has NT Wright changed his mind about the Biblical truths?
(12:15) - What is Wright’s “small working model of new creation”?
(16:15) - The new community of Jesus Christ
(22:51) - The problem of Christian nationalism
(28:16) - The Challenge of Christian Multiculturalism
(29:39) - The Church's Role in Spiritual Warfare
(36:56) - Is the Armor of God a communal thing?
(43:05) - The biblical view of men and women is not antiquated
(49:19) - A final word of encouragement from Ephesians
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Mentioned In This Episode:
N.T. Wright’s The Vision of Ephesians: The Task of the Church and the Glory of God: https://a.co/d/h1rrVRe
N.T. Wright’s forthcoming God's Homecoming: The Forgotten Promise of Future Renewal: https://a.co/d/e1mlXic
Lecture: How Paul Invented Christian Theology (N.T. Wright lecture): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sLuytUgGoo
What are the Five Elements of Christian Nationalism? https://kettering.org/five-elements-of-christian-nationalism/
Learn more: Desmond Tutu and the triumph against Apartheid: https://www.visionofhumanity.org/desmond-tutu-and-the-triumph-against-apartheid/
Watch: How Artistotle and the Greek philosophers influenced the idea of a soul (video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ganc-hpPrEU
Read: How a Man Named Lesslie Changed the Way I Think: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/how-a-man-named-lesslie-changed-the-way-i-think/
Scriptural Thoughts on Rest:
Genesis 1-2 (ESV) - Male & female relationships and creation theology: https://www.esv.org/Genesis+1/
Ephesians 1:1-14 (ESV) - Revealing who Jesus is to the world: https://www.esv.org/verses/Ephesians+1:1%E2%80%9314/
Ephesians 2:10 (ESV) - Humankind’s purpose: https://www.esv.org/verses/Ephesians+2:10/
Ephesians 6:10-20 (ESV) - The full armor of God: https://www.esv.org/verses/Ephesians+6:10%E2%80%9320/
1 Corinthians 15:20-28 (ESV) -The guarantee of the resurrection: https://www.esv.org/verses/1+Corinthians+15:20%E2%80%9328/
Revelation 21-22 (ESV) - Vision of new creation: https://www.esv.org/verses/Revelation+21%E2%80%9322/
More From N.T. Wright:
N.T. Wright Online: https://www.admirato.org/pages/ntw-online
N.T. Wright's Speaking engagements: https://ntwrightpage.com/category/speaking-engagements/
N.T. Wright's books (Amazon): https://www.amazon.com/stores/N.-T.-Wright/author/B001H6NEG8?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=ed760059-4ccb-430a-aef9-6d6cdab2ad69
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