Full Video - Munther Isaac - No Small Endeavor

Imagine you're in charge of pastoring a congregation amidst a war. What does it mean to love your enemies when violence is outside your window, and visceral images of your congregation’s devastation fill your phone? How would you find hope and carry on?

Palestinian Lutheran pastor Munther Isaac joins Lee C. Camp from his home in the West Bank to discuss his book Christ in the Rubble: Faith, the Bible, and the Genocide in Gaza. Drawing from his experience shepherding congregations through two years of war, Munther reflects on grief, anger, and the moral danger of becoming numb to suffering, while still insisting on nonviolence, justice, and the stubborn call to love of enemy. This conversation wrestles with the collision of politics and theology, the misuse of religious language, and what authentic human flourishing, meaning, and courage can look like in the midst of rubble.

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About No Small Endeavor
What does it mean to live a good life? What is true happiness? What are the habits, practices, and dispositions that facilitate human flourishing? Professor Lee C. Camp brings you conversations with those who are taking these questions seriously.

No Small Endeavor began in Nashville as “Tokens Show” in 2008, with quarterly live stage shows exploring theology, social ethics, and human flourishing. The Nashville Scene recognized the show as Nashville’s “Best Local Variety Show” which is a “grass-kicking shredfest” that is a “huge success,” with “genre-bending creativity.”
In 2020 the show began a long-form interview podcast, which led to weekly public radio broadcasts, distributed nationally on PRX.