What Caused Secularization? Yale Historian & Michael Horton on Radical Mystics and the Reformation

Michael Horton is joined by Yale historian Carlos Eire to discuss his new book, Magician and Mechanic: The Roots of “Spiritual but Not Religious” from the Renaissance to the Scientific Revolution. Together, they explore the true story behind secularization and why the modern mind is natively anti-religious.

Magician and Mechanic by Michael Horton: https://www.amazon.com/Magician-Mechanic-Divine-Self-vol/dp/0802877125?crid=2EIK7ZMCE9NKI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.v7PLCLh-c2cOQNHhsXGqPA.-EBlu8_YIc-F749cxjAl20w7Hnp0pV-sOMXVFUPbg1U&dib_tag=se&keywords=magician+and+mechanic+horton&qid=1769016768&sprefix=,aps,281&sr=8-1&linkCode=sl1&tag=corechristianity-20&linkId=9ba986286fb62d74e7771be2da8665c6&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
They Flew: A History of the Impossible by Carlos Eire: https://a.co/d/gnHMzQk

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00:00 How Horton and Eire began researching the natural and supernatural in modernity
10:18 Eyewitness testimonies of levitation and bilocation in the 16th-17th Centuries
17:34 Jonathan Edwards's wife, Teresa of Ávila, and St. Joseph of Cupertino
23:39 The renaissance of astrology, alchemy, and hermeticism
31:11 The Whiggish and March of History Narrative
33:33 Modern fascination with enchantment, mysticism, and spirituality
38:50 Modern reaction against both materialism and traditional religion
43:14 The Radicals vs. the Reformation vs. the Catholics
50:30 Why did the Radicals win?
54:12 Agreements and Disagreements between Catholics and Protestants
58:41 The rise of the occult

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