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A Dialogue between Dr. Kevin Giles (egalitarian) & Dr. Fred Sanders (complementarian). These two Trinity scholars -- with different perspectives on the evangelical gender debate -- discuss recent arguments that an eternal "authority/subordination" relationship exists between the Father and Son, and that it is intended as a model for male-female relations. For the most recent example of this argument, see the chapters by Drs. Wayne Grudem and Bruce Ware in "The New Evangelical Subordinationism?: Perspectives on the Equality of God the Father and God the Son" Kevin Giles (Th.D. Australian College of Theology) served as Anglican rector/pastor for forty years, and now writes, lectures, and is an associate in his present parish in Australia. He has been a member of Christians for Biblical Equality since its inception. His publications include "The Trinity and Subordinationism: The Doctrine of God and the Contemporary Gender Debate" (IVP Academic, 2002); "Jesus and the Father: Modern Evangelicals Reinvent the Doctrine of the Trinity" (Zondervan, 2006); and "The Eternal Generation of the Son: Maintaining Orthodoxy in Trinitarian Theology" (IVP Academic, 2012). Kevin's views on the Trinity and Gender are summarized in CBE's "Priscilla Papers" 26.3, Summer 2012. Fred Sanders (Ph.D. Graduate Theological Union) has served as Professor of Theology in Biola University's Torrey Honors Institute since 1999, is a popular speaker and blogger (www.patheos.com/blogs/scriptorium/author/fredsanders), and an active member of the Grace Evangeiical Free Church. His publications include "The Image of the Immanent Trinity" (Peter Lang, 2005); "Jesus in Trinitarian Perspective: An Introductory Christology", F. Sanders and K. Issler, eds. (B&H, 2007); and "The Deep Things of God: How the Trinity Changes Everything" (Crossway, 2010). Fred has produced many scholarly articles, book chapters. and academic presentations on the Trinity, in which he argues for both "order and equality" in the Godhead.